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By: Carlos Caballero

Carlos Caballero — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:40:32 +0000

Thanks again, Russell, you point to “the social side of SharePoint
2010″, and somehow it would seem that we are talking apples and
apples when we compare it with, say, Jive. Nothing could be further
from the truth: the social functionality of Jive has been available
for years, it is proven, you can install it and run it today, and
love it immediately. Not so with SharePoint 2010: despite all the
smoke and mirrors about SharePoint 2010, let’s review some facts:
it’s NOT AVAILABLE, and IT WILL NOT BE for almost a year. It’s
going on Beta in November, but as far as it can be seen from the
(very buggy) previews shown during the SharePoint Conference, it
has a LOOONG WAY TO GO. Balmer says it will be July 2010 for
release, and the image of the Apple commercial PC saying “Trust me”
comes to mind So, let’s be more precise: SharePoint 2010 will
PROBABLY have more social FEATURES by the time it gets released
many months from now. From those, customers will need to assemble
social solutions that can be really used, and some will succeed,
after spending a lot of money in licenses, development resources,
and schedule time. Say, 18 months or so, a handful of customers
will probably be getting value from their SP-based solutions. As
for comparisons, the result os obvious: during those 18 months or
so, companies like Jive will continue innovating, bringing tons of
working, proven social functionality to market; so, it’s certain
they will remain ahead, and even possible that they will INCREASE
their advantage, free as they are from legacy issues that try to
take in an almost infinite number of markets with a common, huge,
monolithic solution… Disclaimer: of course, I am partial to
Jive SBS, and involved on-and-off with the company. But I am not
asking you to take my comments as an statement of faith or
“trust-me”, do I? :p

By: TMiller

TMiller — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:21:18 +0000

What about data in the cloud? Amazon is a player in the consumer
cloud space (SimpleDB just announced:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10383898-264.html), so what about
for the enterprise?

By: russell

russell — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:28:25 +0000

On Jive, I need an internal sharepoint site to test, going through
the rituals to get one. Will see how it progresses! And yes,
SharePoint is a powerful beast with a lot of extensibility and this
blog talks up the social side of 2010
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4349 But no product or company
is immortal and one only has to looks at Microsoft’s many victories
over once market leaders to realise that…

By: Darkriderdesign

Darkriderdesign — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:36:23 +0000

This was an interesting article, but what it doesn’t take into
account is the influx of Windows 7/Office 2010. All of the benefits
of of the platform; could mostly handled “Out-Of-The-Box” from a
business stand point by purchasing Windows 7 Ultimate and Office
07/2010. From Blog Posting, Web Site Content Generation, Video
Editing, Image Resources, File Management, Desktop Colaboration,
Video Conferencing, etc. Keep in mind these are tools that can work
independently outside of Share Point. Once these tools are used in
tandem with Share Point the Business ramifications are
exponentially vertical. This is part of the Puzzle that Open Source
Advocates seem to miss out on. While Microsoft seems to be lagging
in the industry, all they need to do is push out Updates and they
are head of the pack again because of the foot print they already
have. DUDE you can publish Blog Posts from MS Word now-a-days right
into WordPress… So I guess this boils down to Flashy statements
like “iPhone Killer” It is possible to kill the iPhone itself, but
not possible to kill the 90,000 apps and strong App Store. Just as
you may find a CMS that has better User Interface than Share Point
but it not possible to kill the Complete Microsoft Advantage.

By: Carlos Caballero

Carlos Caballero — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:07:09 +0000

Hey, Russell, you say you are “currently working out how to connect
Jive to [SharePoint]“. Did you know that about the current Jive
integration to SharePoint? A few of its features: * Bi-directional
search integration * Bi-directional content flow * Mapping of
SharePoint silos to socialization containers in Jive, fully
configurable at three levels * Full user awareness about SharePoint
activities inside Jive and SharePoint * WebParts to bring social
information from Jive into the silos * Streamlined access to Jive
social features from Jive * Single Sign On via Kerberos/NTLM *
Beautiful user and container avatar roll-overs in SharePoint, just
as if it was as useable as Jive Let me know if you need more
details, will be happy toi provide them to you Cheers!

By: russell

russell — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:28:17 +0000

Thanks for all the comments and happy for a cross-post. I should
point out I’m not against SharePoint and currently working out how
to connect Jive to it: I use it too and think it has many fine
features.

By: Natasha Felshman

Natasha Felshman — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:48:44 +0000

Hello, I work for Mark Miller at EndUserSharePoint.com. I read this
article and really enjoyed it. We would like to cross-post your
article. As with other authors, we would publish your entire
article on EndUserSharePoint.com giving you full attribution with
links. Please let me know if this is something you would be
interested in. Best Regards, Natasha Natasha Felshman
EndUserSharePoint.com

By: Roeann

Roeann — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:09:34 +0000

Thank you for this information and comments. It has been helpful.

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