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The quiet arrival of the SharePoint killer

It was with some interest that I read The Forrester Wave™: Collaboration Platforms, Q3 2009 after a link was Tweeted out yesterday. I was reading in reverse order from Gartner’s Magic Quadrant, see my Gartner Magic Quadrant; a dark horse closing up the outside fence… My main interest in Forrester’s was to see where Jive were placed. Of late I’ve been doing a lot of hands-on work with Jive and getting to know the platform in a great amount of detail.


On reading the wave report, I was struck by one small arrival – a horse of even darker hue,  that of Cisco WebEx Connect as a collaboration platform. Most people are aware of WebEx as a webinar tool and have not used Connect.  I was at Cisco when WebEx was acquired and in San Jose too and remember all the WebEx signs in the carpark. It all looked a bit puzzling, for me at least, until I found out about Connect. Connect is a superb tool and worth acquiring for that alone. It’s a SharePoint killer.

Here’s why. Connect is 2.0 in a way that SharePoint never will be. It’s modular, making it infinitely extendable and uses accessible open APIs:

  • URL commands
  • XML Request / Response interfaces with well-defined schemas
  • Web Services interfaces that support Web Services Definition Language (WSDL) with access through Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP).
  • Representational State Transfer (REST).

What this means is a rapidly deployable, file-store and  silo-busting collaboration app with the ability to slot in any number of friendly mash-ups. Twitter for Connect/ no problemo, just load it up and slot it in. Facebook, ditto, iPhone easy. What’s more it’s robustly secure, no worries about the firewall with this baby. And of course it’s backed up by a tech behemoth. This is no start-up.

Potentially, this is the Enterprise 2.0 application.

I say potentially as to be frank I was surprised to see it in the Forrester Wave (and it’s not present in Gartner’s). The product is superb but I’ve never seen it pushed out and really marketed for what it is. Go to the WebEx site (and it’s still on the WebEx domain) and Connect is listed but not featured much. It doesn’t scream out what it does. What’s more, I couldn’t find the link where I might connect up with Connect. Puzzling.

Now if you go onto the Jive site you’ll see a lot of publicity about SharePoint connectivity. All good stuff as SharePoint is almost a defacto standard in many corporations. This could change almost overnight. Here’s how and why.

Cisco, Miscrosoft and Google are in a cage fight. That fight I dubbed The Battle of the Cloud a while back. Cisco own the Network, Miscrosoft the Software and Google own the Experience. All of these 3 areas get completely mashed up in the metaphor we currently know as the cloud. And I believe, the stakes are high enough to see severe casualties amongst the 3 big players. (See also Dion Hinchcliffe’s Cloud computing and the return of the platform wars…estimate is for $42 Billion by 2012, I’m taking the argument even further).

Against this backdrop, singular products like Connect, that many don’t even realise exists, provides some wonderfully disruptive possibilities as a disruptive Enterprise 2.0 collaboration tool. Given this, what I’d do if I was sitting in the board at San Jose would be to ramp up the marketing for Connect. And if I really wanted to shake up the whole apple cart, I’d also make it free.

16 replies on “The quiet arrival of the SharePoint killer”

I can’t say that I agree the heavy web-services interfaces is a
desirable approach. The end goal of enabling machine to machine
collaboration, extensibility, scalability and programmability is
best achieved with RESTful design (this is distinct from REST
interfaces). Take a look at MindTouch, if you haven’t already, for
a good example of this.

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Hello, I work for Mark Miller at I read this
article and really enjoyed it. We would like to cross-post your
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Thanks for all the comments and happy for a cross-post. I should
point out I’m not against SharePoint and currently working out how
to connect Jive to it: I use it too and think it has many fine

Hey, Russell, you say you are “currently working out how to connect
Jive to [SharePoint]”. Did you know that about the current Jive
integration to SharePoint? A few of its features: * Bi-directional
search integration * Bi-directional content flow * Mapping of
SharePoint silos to socialization containers in Jive, fully
configurable at three levels * Full user awareness about SharePoint
activities inside Jive and SharePoint * WebParts to bring social
information from Jive into the silos * Streamlined access to Jive
social features from Jive * Single Sign On via Kerberos/NTLM *
Beautiful user and container avatar roll-overs in SharePoint, just
as if it was as useable as Jive Let me know if you need more
details, will be happy toi provide them to you 🙂 Cheers!

This was an interesting article, but what it doesn’t take into
account is the influx of Windows 7/Office 2010. All of the benefits
of of the platform; could mostly handled “Out-Of-The-Box” from a
business stand point by purchasing Windows 7 Ultimate and Office
07/2010. From Blog Posting, Web Site Content Generation, Video
Editing, Image Resources, File Management, Desktop Colaboration,
Video Conferencing, etc. Keep in mind these are tools that can work
independently outside of Share Point. Once these tools are used in
tandem with Share Point the Business ramifications are
exponentially vertical. This is part of the Puzzle that Open Source
Advocates seem to miss out on. While Microsoft seems to be lagging
in the industry, all they need to do is push out Updates and they
are head of the pack again because of the foot print they already
have. DUDE you can publish Blog Posts from MS Word now-a-days right
into WordPress… So I guess this boils down to Flashy statements
like “iPhone Killer” It is possible to kill the iPhone itself, but
not possible to kill the 90,000 apps and strong App Store. Just as
you may find a CMS that has better User Interface than Share Point
but it not possible to kill the Complete Microsoft Advantage.

On Jive, I need an internal sharepoint site to test, going through
the rituals to get one. Will see how it progresses! And yes,
SharePoint is a powerful beast with a lot of extensibility and this
blog talks up the social side of 2010 But no product or company
is immortal and one only has to looks at Microsoft’s many victories
over once market leaders to realise that…

Thanks again, Russell, you point to “the social side of SharePoint
2010”, and somehow it would seem that we are talking apples and
apples when we compare it with, say, Jive. Nothing could be further
from the truth: the social functionality of Jive has been available
for years, it is proven, you can install it and run it today, and
love it immediately. Not so with SharePoint 2010: despite all the
smoke and mirrors about SharePoint 2010, let’s review some facts:
it’s NOT AVAILABLE, and IT WILL NOT BE for almost a year. It’s
going on Beta in November, but as far as it can be seen from the
(very buggy) previews shown during the SharePoint Conference, it
has a LOOONG WAY TO GO. Balmer says it will be July 2010 for
release, and the image of the Apple commercial PC saying “Trust me”
comes to mind 🙂 So, let’s be more precise: SharePoint 2010 will
PROBABLY have more social FEATURES by the time it gets released
many months from now. From those, customers will need to assemble
social solutions that can be really used, and some will succeed,
after spending a lot of money in licenses, development resources,
and schedule time. Say, 18 months or so, a handful of customers
will probably be getting value from their SP-based solutions. As
for comparisons, the result os obvious: during those 18 months or
so, companies like Jive will continue innovating, bringing tons of
working, proven social functionality to market; so, it’s certain
they will remain ahead, and even possible that they will INCREASE
their advantage, free as they are from legacy issues that try to
take in an almost infinite number of markets with a common, huge,
monolithic solution… 🙂 Disclaimer: of course, I am partial to
Jive SBS, and involved on-and-off with the company. But I am not
asking you to take my comments as an statement of faith or
“trust-me”, do I? :p

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